Gordon Brown to admit ‘mistakes’ on immigration
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Gordon Brown to admit ‘mistakes’ on immigration
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Too little to late.Stop all muslim immigration immediately and deport the rest.
Re: Gordon Brown to admit ‘mistakes’ on immigrationI think that those with responsibility for this appalling error of judgement, in which they also claim that diversity and multiculturism has "enriched" Britain, should be made to live for 12mnths in the muslim dominated areas of Oldham(with JihadJedi as a neighbour), Bradford, Leicester or Blackburn.
Give them first hand experience of this "enrichment and diversity" of Britain that they so much laud for others. See how much they would appreciate feeling like a foreigner in a British city. It is the only way to make them understand the feelings of the people. sum
Re: Gordon Brown to admit ‘mistakes’ on immigrationWhy doctors????? Are doctors dangerous and not contributing to the well being of the people? Are muslims better than the doctors?
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Jack Straw does live in Blackburn and he would never dare criticise Labour's open-door immigration policies.
Re: Gordon Brown to admit ‘mistakes’ on immigrationThis so-called "policy change" is far too little, far too late.
It's a pathetic attempt to "steal the BNP's thunder", and I don't see it making much of an impact on their rising popularity. - enceladus "To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead."
- Thomas Paine "One good schoolmaster is of more use than a hundred priests." - Thomas Paine
Re: Gordon Brown to admit ‘mistakes’ on immigrationHello PB
I know that our loyal friend, Jack Straw who puts his job before Britain, lives in Blackburn but does he live among a high density of muslims? I would doubt it but am prepared to be proven wrong. sum
Re: Gordon Brown to admit ‘mistakes’ on immigrationI believe that Jack Straw(man) may have a house in Blackburn, but being in the Parliament, he lives in London, close to work. On the taxpayer's expense.
I can't see him commuting on a daily basis. Or living on Muslim street for that matter. "Brother, you can believe in stones, as long as you don’t throw them at me." - Wafa Sultan
Re: Gordon Brown to admit ‘mistakes’ on immigrationOne has to suspect that any "fall in immigration" is purely down to economic factors and that the vast majority of people who have left have been from the European Union and, coincidentally, mostly white and from a similar "Christian based culture".
While heavy Polish immigration has caused a certain resentment in very specific areas of the UK, I do not believe this is the cause of concern for most UK citizens. The real problem we have is with illegals who, when caught (a rare enough occurrence) then immediately claim asylum. They are virtually never deported, particularly when they come from a "sensitive" community. And the leftists who claim that there is no such thing as a "bogus asylum seeker" are deluded or liars. People will use any method to get in, they will lie, cheat, pay people smugglers, forge documents and make bogus claims. Once in, they are virtually never pursued; those who get "caught" are nearly always apprehended by ACCIDENT and not by design. And, even then, VERY few are deported. In fact, laughably few. And this fact attracts MORE to come here. When Labour decided to throw open the doors and "diversify", they were not referring to the immigration of "white" (Christian based culture) people from the EU or from anywhere else. Nor was their sole motive to cock a snook at the Conservatives. It is not a coincidence that our illegals, once here, are immediately housed and given a financial allowance - all at the taxpayers expense- "while their case is being looked into" by the Home Office. This most often takes YEARS, and in the meantime there are immigration lawyers helping them to get around the rules or prepare community activists to lobby MPs on their behalf. Many have destroyed their documents and are untraceable back to their place of origin. The key factor is that these "diversified" immigrants are, once they achieve citizenship, OVERWHELMINGLY Labour voters. With my own suspicious cynical mind, I believe this is Labour's long term plan in the face of the Scottish threat to leave the UK. If the Scottish Nationalists ever got their way and left the UK, Labour would be dead,dead,dead. They would never win another shot at government because only the support of Scottish voters makes that possible. (For non UK readers, I should point out that "Conservative" is overwhelmingly considered an obscene word in Scotland.) So, what we see from Brown now is but a charade. It is not those who come here LEGALLY to work who are the problem. Most return home after a few years; or, like now, when the economy turns against them. The actions he is taking against them does NOTHING to curtail the "diversified" future Labour voters pouring in and often being supported long-term by the taxpayer. No, those who are to be curtailed are those from (key wording here...) "work related" immigration. (And, thus, almost by definition likely to become Conservative voters if they got citizenship.) Edit: For those who dislike the term "Christian-based culture", read "Non-Muslim based culture" - probably more accurate because it does not exclude Hindus - who comprise only the TINIEST fraction of our immigration and who tend to come LEGALLY. But hopefully, you know what I was saying despite the imperfection of the terminology. Last edited by Brendalee on Fri Nov 13, 2009 6:53 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Re: Gordon Brown to admit ‘mistakes’ on immigrationBrendalee is right, the threat of the SNP has damaged Labour in Scotland and without Scottish votes the Conservatives would pretty much stroll to victory in any election. Labour has lost ground in its traditional heartlands in England to the Liberal Democrats and they've divided the vote enough to give the Conservatives power overall.
When Labour say things like this you know they're on the run:
Labour has either ignored anyone who's been saying this for the past twelve years or branded them racist to silence any legitimate concerns about uncontrolled immigration. I feel it's too late now. ![]() Ex-Muslims needed to answer my questions: http://forum09.faithfreedom.org/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=4519 Serious posts only.
Re: Gordon Brown to admit ‘mistakes’ on immigrationCynic that I am, I do not agree that it is too late. At least, it doesn't HAVE to be. What we are starving for is pragmatic honest government.
If Scotland wants to leave the United Kingdom and have its independence, I'd say let them go (but without the North Sea oil which ALL the citizens of the UK have paid for and which should, in my view, be re-nationalised). We need to secularise our government strictly: Out with laws against "religious hate speech", out with "blasphemy" laws, etc. These things have never afforded any actual protection for any religion but Islam. The Labour government (naturally) wants to give an "amnesty" to all the illegal migrants already here. This needs to be opposed. Building or maintaining religious buildings with foreign funds should be made illegal. If there are adequate numbers of worshippers using or requiring a building, let them raise the money themselves. If there are not adequate numbers, then obviously they have no great need of the building. Nor should we recognise the concept of the waqf, and this should be made plain. Taxpayers should NEVER be expected to pay money for the special treatment of some religious group or other. Nor to promote any religion in any way or protect any religion in any way. Taxpayers should pay only for strictly secular government and strictly secular schools, etc. Let religion look after itself. Immigration authorities must be given the funding to search out and promptly deport illegals. Traffic wardens had a quota. Immigration authorities should have one also and be paid accordingly, particularly for illegals who are on benefits. (Because the savings to the tax payer would far more than cover the cost of the ticket.) Illegals who have been here more than 10 years should be given a deadline to apply for residency. After that deadline, chuck them out, even if they have been here 20 years. Anyway these are just a few things that would ease the situation greatly. There are some sensible solutions to some of the problems, but the issue is getting a government with the political will to act. The point really is that at the moment,we do not even enforce the laws that we DO have.... So, yes it would take nearly a miracle. But I do not believe it is too late.
Re: Gordon Brown to admit ‘mistakes’ on immigrationOh, and there is already a 10 year rule, but it is not compulsary. You "can" apply for residency after being here for 10 years, even if you have been here illegally. It is generally granted if you can show that you are settled and self-sufficient. So there really is no reason for an "amnesty" except to fiddle the voter demographics in Labour's favour.
(They are working hard to get the vote for 16 year olds - because younger people are naive...and therefore tend to be Labour voters...There is no scheme too low for Labour to attempt.)
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Re: Gordon Brown to admit ‘mistakes’ on immigrationThe problem is not immigrant, but rather uncontrolled immigration and bringing in the wrong type of migrants, regardless their reasons.
Bringing of skilled migrants like doctors, engineers, architects, academicians, white collared folks rarely cause major social unrest. Such migrants are educated, practice some form of family planning, and tend to be law-abiding. Problem comes when Britain takes in hordes of unskilled migrants, who end up drifting into lower-skilled jobs like cab drivers, janitors and odd-job labourers. Problem comes when Britain takes in migrants who believes in violence towards women, discrimination against folks outside their religion, and sympathisers towards militant religions. It is certainly a big mistake to import Muslims in large numbers. Whether they come from Morocco or Pakistan, they all have shared values of honor-killing, support of Islamic terrorism, hatred for the key values, cultural, historical and religious heritage of Europe. It appears that Gordon Brown has yet to really face the real mistakes of Britain's immigration policies. 72 virgins in paradise? Horse with wings? How stupid can you get!!!
Re: Gordon Brown to admit ‘mistakes’ on immigrationIt's no coincidence that it is the Muslim immigrant doctors who go "Muslim" and blow themselves up or shoot innocent bystanders. This is a good start to tighten Muslim immigration. They have proven themselves to be anti-West hypocrite ingrates and unworthy of immigration places. There are plenty of other worthier immigrants. We don't have to stoop to the bottom of the barrel - millions of hungry grateful useful immigrants are dying to get to the West. Muslims Out!!! Now !
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